Sheffield Wednesday Banter Archive November 07 2012

07 Nov 2012 12:14:03
we now have a moaning depressing manager, whose negativity and public outbursts about his players and now referees is at best annoying, at worst relegation material. There is no confidence in the team, and has anybody seen Hillsborough as quiet as last night. 300 Blackpool fans making more noise than 20,000 of us! , well thats because like the team the energy has been sucked out of us by the management team. Team, now theres a word, remember Mr Megson, not blessed with great footballers last year, but what he did do was build a team, with fantastic spirit and a collective will to win. Mr Jones took over that team, but now he seems hell bent on changing all the players with players who just arent upto it. I dont like singling players out but Bothroyd does not want to even be here, he couldnt be less interested. The rest of them are all looking at each other waiting for something to happen. its time for change.

At first I supported David Jones and wanted him to have time to settle things down. Now I honestly and regretfully feel that there should be no place for a manager who spreads despondency rather than hope. Other than the youngsters who were brought in as "development" players (and are now being asked unfairly to perform above their station),there have been some dreadful signings. Time to move on.

Lifelong Owl

MM please bring back Megson and back him this time .
He proved he can put Owls passion in to the team, just look what he achieved with nothing to spend.
And hes won more promotions in to Prem than DJ has

Sorry to mention it again but it was obviously Burton that was the brains behind Jones. Since he left we've gone freefall and only won two matches against bottom teams and a cup tie when Fulham didnt turn up.
Jones only solution seems to be Stick with Bothroyd , upset the refs , and fingers crossed the learning curve straightens up

07 Nov 2012 08:59:11
We were given a lesson last night and it showed what is wrong at Hillsborough, the defence for the most part did ok. I know Blackpool scored two goals but were restricted to few attempts at goal. The midfield and attack is the problem, the midfield is naïve and too inexperienced, the playing experience of Corry, MaCabe and Barkley is less than three seasons between them, they are learning their trade, if we had any one of those players in the team with a quality experienced player we might get away with it but we don't so we have to play Semedo as a minder. Last night we played five in midfield and were still out played by Blackpool's midfield three.
Antonio is also a young player who is learning his trade and he along with Corry, MaCabe and Barkley are going to be an asset to the club but can we afford them all in the team at the moment. As for JJ, well JJ is JJ he can beat anybody on his day, his skill is second to none but too many managers have tried to get him to think about his game and play the right ball at the right time unfortunately they have all failed.
We do not have a quality striker, Madine is the only one on the books who has scored more than twenty goals in a season and he can't get on the pitch, O'Grady works his socks off but is never going to be a twenty goal a season striker, Rodri, looks lost when he comes on as does Pecnik. Rodri and Pecnik could have a future but lack experience at this level. I can't comment in Maguire I have never seen him play. Then we come to Bothroyd I can't understand how he gets his place. Over the last three games that I have seen him play he has constantly given the ball away and got caught in possession, he is never where he should be and wanders about the pitch as though he is on a stroll. He is not good enough; he looks as though he is there just to pick up his wages.
I said to my son after I saw us play in the pre season friendliest that I though Jones had made a big mistake. We had a good league one team that need some quality additions and Jones has brought in players that are either no better than we had last season or are kids who are not ready for the Championship. Jones insistence on playing Bothroyd will cost him his job.

Long winded some might think, but I agree with every word and it has to be said.
I've said similar things consistently and been accused of not being an Owl etc, etc.
Being loyal doesn't mean ignoring mistakes, keeping quiet and agreeing with everything the manager does !!
I was here when Harry Catterick was here and I'll be here when Dave Jones has gone ! Like all the other loyal fans !
DJ is a good manager - but he has made some BIG mistakes most of which are listed above but the TWO biggest ones for me are:- 1) Buying young players for the future before making sure we have one!! He should have strengthened last seasons side in key positions to give those young players time to grow - and (2) Building the team round ONE of his favourite players who has not justified that faith with his performances. It must also hurt the morale of the rest of the team when sub-standard performances get rewarded with another pick !
We need DJ to change now or I am sure MM will change DJ.

Up front our only threat is Antonio. Everything depends on him. Nothing in the middle, hence few goals. The players try hard but with a poor set-up ,poor selection, gloomy moans and excuses from a depressing manager it HAS TO change. And yes, I am a loyal fan but I am not blind.

Need to start giving madine some full starts for 4-6 games and see how he goes, bothroyd wont be here for ever and at moment ogrady is struggling, against boro madine and mcguire xxx

Maguire is out for 6weeks injured otherwise DJ was going to send him to Portsmouth - another puzzle eh?

Poster above who says Bothroyd wont be here forever .... have you heard something , hope so.

Me too

07 Nov 2012 09:04:09
Ross Barclay. Don't believe the hype.

Defidently true...but believe the hype about Ross Barkley, hes pure class