Sheffield Wednesday Banter Archive November 23 2013

 

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23 Nov 2013 23:45:50
Enough is enough, Milan, stop our agony right now and sack incompetent Jones.

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Pls tell me he's been sacked this morning! I can't put up with this any longer. It's s shambles!

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He will, MM to sack DJ, but not until January if the results have not improved by then, obviously because MM has to look after his business/wealth and to loose money. Then again you can say you only get what you pay for when there is NO DECENT SIGNINGS! (NDS)

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January too late!

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Yes, my money's on the week before Christmas not January.

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23 Nov 2013 21:26:24
Dj not good enough and players not good enough. We need a manager that will show some passion and has a idea how to do his job and we need players that want and are good enough for our club. Bkowl

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I am a very loyal Wednesdayite and travel regularly several hundreds of miles, even home games are a round journey of 300 miles but I faithfully follow the blue and whites. I have been in the old Division 3 with them and even the Premiership, but this time I can see no hope for this lot unless a dramatic change of leadership takes place, JONES must go, as his leadership is excuse after excuse and he is a Teflon man nothing seems to stick, he blames everybody bar himself. Who coaches the players, who employed them, who picks the team who encourages them and motivates them YES the MANAGER but it seems he is NOT DOING his job. If I was like this in my job and any of my workers were of a similar way the only way is OUT. In fairness ANTONIO has been rubbish, but we the fans wanted him back, so that my be our fault, we can admit that. I do think however there is a flair player in ANTONIO and with a bit of love and affection from everyone he will come back and be the player he was. McCabe, McGuire, Llera, up until Saturday, the Albanian, Reda, who has also lost some of his heart and effort, are players who looked like that when playing their heart and soul was in the club, but Mr. Misery does not seem to like or appreciate them and dumps them on the side lines. When I think back JONES was pleased to get McCabe and McGuire but when they proved not to be his YES men they were chopped. All I see in this team at the moment are players who used to play for JONES and say he is a great Manager. Cardiff have improved; Southampton improved and Everton improved AFTER he left or was sacked. Is that a clue to M. M. JONES does not appear to back youngsters unless he brings them in on loan, Wickham and Berkley, give our youngsters a chance, they cannot be any worse than what is on the pitch at this time. If we are looking for a Manager what a lot of ex players are out there; Pearson; Wilson; Worthington; Sheridan to name four are they any worse than we have - points of view asked for. I personally would go for PEARSON, but his history with M. M. is poor so HOLLOWAY looks the choice.

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23 Nov 2013 21:19:42
Jones should do the ryt thing and go now bkowl

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23 Nov 2013 20:48:42
Is takeover talk delaying the obvious need to relieve Dave Jones of his Position

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23 Nov 2013 18:46:04
About 10 days ago somebody left a comment on here on good authority, insider information, a man who has connections, take my word it, I'm not making it up, that Dave Jones would be sacked if he lost this match.

WELL I'M WAITING!!!!!

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23 Nov 2013 16:07:39
No heart no fight players haven't got a clue and it's all down to one man dave jones I've seen more life in a graveyard than in him Milan sack him know becouse we have become the biggest joke ever all them managers he as sacked in the past for petty reasons but for some reason he's still here. O and all you why blame the manager rubbish it's the team what a load of rubbish the squad is a good squad it's the clown who picks it that's the problem. And all real fans that go home and away will tell you the same

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The players don't want to play for him, think that's painfully obvious come on MM do the right this and put the person out of his and our misery.

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If the players are good enough but don't want to play for the manager then they are equally (or more) to blame for the situation. That's common sense, surely? They are paid well, live in luxury and are in the shop window in a big league, exposing them to Premier League teams' interest. What more motivation do they need? Aside from that they should always give 100% for the badge, the club and most of all the supporters who work so hard to afford season tickets to watch a team play. By not giving their all, even in the guise of not working for the manager then they are disrespecting us as fans and should hang their heads in shame. I have tried so hard this season to he behind the team, to encourage people to do the same and after today's game I finally have had enough of trying to back a team and manager that clearly don't want to be there, not all of them of course but most of them for sure have no fight in them for us the paying supporters. And it's not even the cold, hard winter yet! I still am thankful for MM for stepping in to help the club, I still support MM in his vision of what he wants for the club but I now see no option but to show DJ the door and give money to the new man to weed out the p*ss takers who pull on the blue and white each week and walk about like kids on a playground. Sick of it now.

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Ponty, i'm with you all the way my friend. In fact i'd have you as our next manager. let's start the campaign here and now, ponty for manager!

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Haha only part way through my coaching badges I'm afraid, but I'd do it for free. Just been having a browse through the PFA transfer list at free agents and it is amazing how many decent players with Premier League experience are out of contract. Sylvan Ebanks-Blake is still a free agent after being release by Wolves after his broken leg, I'd get him on trial instantly to see how his injury has recovered and with a view to getting him fit, on a short term contract. There are tons of ex Premier League youth products looking for clubs too, I'd have to say it would be a great coup to hold an open training day for these players with a view to finding a rough diamond. Fair enough they were probably not ready for first team experience and deemed surplus in the top flight but they must have something about them to have been paid and trained through some of the best academies in the land. Imagine the publicity if the Owls were to openly invite all ex Premier academy players currently OOC to a behind closed doors training week, sell the rights to it to tv to film it, take on a few free players and give them a contract til the end of the season and if they flop it costs nothing, if they prove good enough we sign them for another year then look at selling them on as finished products. Why we must rely on buying cheap overseas imports and journeymen is beyond me when we have ex England under 21 and youth internationals sat doing nothing.

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That's not a bad idea at all Ponty owl. nothing to lose offering free trials to ooc players.

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Just had a quick look down the list of out of contract players and here is a snippet of the kind of potential out there sat waiting for a club to take them on trial:

Young out of contract players with Premier League experience:

GK James Shea (Arsenal)
RB/CB Ramil Sheriff (Spurs/Norwich)
RB/CB James Wylie (Blackburn/Norwich)
CB Daniel Devine (Villa/Ireland Youth International)
CB Eoin Wearen (W Ham/Ireland Youth International)
CB/RB Alex Evans (Cardiff/Wales Youth International)
LB/LM James Mzamo Musa (Fulham/N Zealand Youth International)
LB Samir Bihmoutine (Arsenal)
RM/LM Samuel Bangura (Chelsea/Sierra Leone Full International)
CM/CF Dyllon Wolstenholme (Bolton)
CM/RB Joshua Rees (Arsenal/England Youth International)
LM Sam Kelly (Norwich/Everton)
CF Nigel Oldfield Spence-Neita (Arsenal)
CF/LF Charlie Losasso (Reading)
CF Casey Thomas (Swansea/Wales Youth International)

And there are a fair few more experienced players who have been released for one reason or another and would be available for free, here are a few (varying levels of talent):

Experienced players out of contract:

Titus Bramble
Simon Davies
Thomas Hitzlsperger
Julio Arca
Stephen Elliot
Darius Vassell
Mido
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake

Now I'm sure that some of these would not be interested in a trial, some would, some would demand wages too high for us. Even if the vast majority of them were not good enough then I am certain one or two would be good squad players or have potential to become first team players in the future, surely it would be worth inviting them down en masse to see what they are about? And this is just my quick glance, god knows what is really out there.

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23 Nov 2013 15:19:24
Shocking performance. there's no fight in the players. seen some bad teams at hillsboro over the years but this lot are a joke

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23 Nov 2013 15:09:35
D. J will hopefully be shown the door, but the damage is done. It is a long way back from here for this squad and I do not envy anyone the task of trying to breathe life into a set of average individuals against a very difficult fixture list to come.

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23 Nov 2013 14:19:52
Rubbish yet again.

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23 Nov 2013 14:16:48
Dj out! For any1 who actually believes in him can you please tell me what he's done for us? Yes we won promotion but it was all meggos hard work! He's still got megsons team! He isn't any good at all. Mm just get rid of him please

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23 Nov 2013 12:14:52
Kirkland and Reda on the bench!! Any ideas

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