Sheffield Wednesday Banter Archive January 13 2014

 

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13 Jan 2014 20:08:29
Don't think Stuart grays getting the job, hope I'm wrong but it make's you ask the question why not?& What is Milan upto? No logical reason not to give gray the job, the players obviously want him to get it with the performances since Dj got sacked is Milan just penny pinching! Keep him as caretaker and save a few bob! Just give the man the job and we can move on up the league! UTO

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Think the above post is inaccurate.
Gray is already being paid to do managers job will have agreed uplift in pay when taking caretaker role. MM whatever you think is a businessman and unlike him not to have clear picture of what he wants. The decision looks straight forward and current position hard to fathom as MM clearly rates Gray. Looking at comments of both SG and MM I feel another factor is involved.
Think the reason Gray has not got the job have to be one of the following:
1. Length of contract offered by MM is not what Gray wants. MM probably offered end of season.
2. A deal is already in place with another candidate and MM is waiting for him to be released or end of season, socan take upappointment.
3. A possible takeover is in wind and new owners have own idea of they want as manager.

I personally think MM has agreed manager role with a person and is waiting for person to become available. This ties in with his earlier comment he was just looking for someone to hold reins until end of season. Do nt think it is any of the heavily linked names as he has been quite dismissive in response to suggestions such as Ince.
Possible it could be linked to investment.

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I've said on here several times that I wonder if there's something about our club that just puts interested buyers off but no-one has ever offered a serious reply. I know MM bought the club but if you look back over say five years how many supposed serious buyers have there been and yet they've all walked away. And it doesn't feel to me as though there's one in the wings now somehow. It just puzzles me, big club name, long tradition, huge potential, huge fan base and yet no takers: what's the reason?

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To previous "think the above" poster-
I agree with pretty much all your post but I suspect you came to same conclusions as me because of your very last statement "Possible linked to investment"?
It really is the only one that makes any logical sense.
Coming on the back of two recent £1.5m "loans" to MM (like he needs it?), that would suggest that there are other voices in the background regarding selection of the manager?

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I think the lack of investment/ new owner, could be down to us not being able to get planning permission for any changes to the ground, can't even get permission for a new scoreboard. Might be down to some locals objecting (probably blunts) to everything.

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Why we could not get investment was of the split shareholding. No person or company will put in millions when others have a say. Soon as this was removed all be it by threat of liquidation MM came in. I know others were waiting in wings if had gne into liquidation. Since MM has taken over the recession has really bitten and few are speculating. Wats more MM is being choosy he wants them to have finance to take club forward not just take over.
He is being true to his word when he took over also last 2 years of struggle will not have helped.
Planning permission is red herring, although substantial funds required to update stadium and my guess is if we do find new owner a move to a new stadium will be on cards. Because of size of fan base and potential it would need to be 45,000 to 50,000 stadium and that's not cheap. Hillsbrough in current guise is costly to maintain and is a drain on resources. I have no idea what proportion of cost of new stadium could be offset by selling Hillsbrough.
Knocking down and rebuilding on same site I understand not an option as would require finding temp stadium or playing on abuilding site for 3/4seasons both big drain on revenue. The above is accurate.

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Can't imagine a new stadium would be high on the agenda for a new owner unless they were mega rich. Would have thought they would concentrate on investing in the team. Think a 50,000 stadium is a bit ambitious, don't think we would have filled that too often back in the 1990s.

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The stadium is more than adequate for a few more years yet.
When you consider the state of Bramall Lane and they managed to find a buyer.
Although, that does now look a little bit dubious.

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13 Jan 2014 19:56:59
fryatt would be a great signing. as for leon clarke we had him don't want him back. donkey

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13 Jan 2014 19:25:50
OFFICIAL couple win £4, 500 on t. v. by stating that sheffield united are POINTLESS.

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13 Jan 2014 18:16:40
Without intending to sound like I'm saying "we told you so" I'm just wondering how the Dave Jones supporters are now feeling since MM sacked him and the results and displays have improved by miles. If only MM had acted earlier in the season when we first started to realise DJ wasn't up for the job I wonder where we would have been in the league now? Top half with 4 months of the season left. Could have been a completely different season.

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DJ should have gone after yeovil

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I was a DJ supporter and have already posted I was wrong. I do think all managers deseve time so was pleased he was given a good chance to rectify things. He obviously was not using resources in the optimum way. Recent results does indicate we have recruited some decent players and have a decent set of coaches, also just a chance development squad may pay off (e. g lavery part of first intake).
Hence accept MM was correct to dismiss. Time to move on and get behind new boss, not harp on about what might have been.

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Most comments I did see on here this season where in agreement about DJ going, but not MM.

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13 Jan 2014 18:08:20
Think issue with Gray and manager job is MM and SG agreeing terms of contract, Suspect MM offered to end of season and Gray wants 2 years. Other explanations ae MM has someone lined up already and awaiting release or possible takeove in wind and new owners have manager in mind.

We seem to go between excellent and abysmal in games was trying to think what the reason for this is. All I could reason is we are most effective when we play high tempo pressing game. Playing two games in close order does not allow players to recover and thin squad does not allow intechange of key men. Most recent example Macclesfield performance after midweek game.

Be interested to hear others views on above. Sensible ones please without recourse to negativity.

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Could be something in that, let's see what happens tomorrow evening. I suspect it's just systematic of football in the championship where the majority of teams are so inconsistent.

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13 Jan 2014 14:15:59
Leon Clarke handed transfer request in at Coventry us and wolves intrested according to tv news your thoughts?

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No thanks Div 1 player

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Reports I have read say Barnsley and Brighton, He played for us for 3 years and was on the whole poor. managed one goal in 5. Not a championship player. Would be astonished if we tried to buy him. GGet feeling some persons delibeately putting rubbish on here to try an dwind us up. Absolute joke linking us we would not pay a fee.

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