Sheffield Wednesday Rumours Archive December 08 2012

08 Dec 2012 21:12:51
One last though from me tonight and a message to Dave Jones

"It's a poor workman that blames his tools"

Anybody know how much he is on a week?

Someone ring the police cos he is pinching money!

08 Dec 2012 21:28:12
Owen Coyle now 3-1 favorite for Wednesday manager

I think I'd give dj abut longer. Think about it reading were in this possison and in January onwards did great. I'm not saying we will win e league but I'm saying we could do better and hopefully not get relegated I want to see how dj and mm react in jan in my opinion I think dj has to spend the cash I'm talking about 5 mil on 3 quilty players to help
I think the likes of Daniel jones, nejc pecnik, jj and when loans are over get bothroyd, sidbe and Helen. Since reda has been injured we've dine crap so when he's back he's a good areal threat. JUST KEEP THE FAITH we need to stick together we out in a great performance against Bristol city and it was just bad luck and when our luck turns and if wee play like that we'll do better. STICK TOGEHTHER because we need to boost there confidence don't get on there back because I really got be bothered for another season in league 1!!!!!!!!

No chance will he turn it round.
I know someone who knows a player (yeah yeah :P) and they reckon there were problems between some of the players and jones months back.
Being so stubborn with Bothroyd alone is reason enough to give him the sack.Everyone and his dog can see he has lost his ability or passion for the game.
Whats happened with Rodri. He's good enough for Barca B team but not good enough for us.Jones was goin on about him and saying how you could see the qualities the lad has but now, not a sniff at a starting place.
He has made big mistakes.He isn't a man manager and his past record is less impressive than his standing in the game.
I don't dislike him but he has effed up and we need a fresh start and new ideas.A la Ipswich.
Yes we always get rid of managers but we cant stick with one just for the sake of it.

Looking at the post above (dj abut) and it's contents

I was like that when I had my first pint

Go to bed and sleep it off mate and read what you have posted

As Del Boy says "What a Plonker you really are"

I have been looking at the comments from the fans of our great club, I can see the pain the anger, but most of all I can see the pride we have in this team of ours. Time is very quickly running out but the shows not over till the fat lady sings, but MM she is putting on her make-up and is nearly ready to sing. Lets all hope you can get on stage before her or we are lost. In 60 years of supporting this wonderful team I have never felt so ashamed of any manager as I do now. You have taken control of our great club MM so CONTROL it you did it easily enough with GM (the true blue) SO do it now get rid of this guy and give us back our pride. I can take going down but I cant stumack going down without a fight - SO GIVE US A FIGHTING CHANCE GET A REAL MANAGER IN - eric the owl

Totally agree .

08 Dec 2012 19:30:51
can somebody please tell me what hope we have, because all team selections have been exausted now, yet we are still crup.
i am an owl, but i am extremely disturbed with our current run of form.
could any manager actually do any better with the players we have?

We were ok when the weather was warm, its 2 cold for em i reckon

The players were naïve, It is not my fault, it's the players fault, and I didn't give away two penalties. I didn't get too excited; I didn't give away a free kick. It's not my fault, look at my record I'm a good manager.

I am tired of listening to your excuses Mr Jones, at the end of last season we had a very good league 1 side, after all we won promotion by finishing second. We needed some quality players adding to the team, a quality centre half, two quality midfield players and a quality striker. Jones for some reason known only to himself choose to bring in sixteen mainly young players with possibly some potential and of course our saviours Taylor, Bothcrap and sick note Sidibe. But today eight of last years team played and gave their all but it is not enough and Jones is to blame. Then he has the nerve to say it is not his fault. The man is joke but we Owls supporters are not laughing.

08 Dec 2012 18:57:54
Unfortunately Wednesday have very little chance
of survival even if they change the manager.
They are getting to far adrift.The main thing is to many defeats. Having said that
a change could bring some pride back early into the new year and few changes to the team next month may get a few better results. I agree with making a change, however we are doomed to a return to league one either way. I did not expect promotion again but you would have thought Mandaric would have made sure we survived in the championship and then sold the club as a good acqusition with little debt, What will happen now?
They will have to let players go next season to get wage bill down.

On Current form id let the lot of them leave. Only saleable asset we have is antonio poss madine
Questions have got to be asked now of mandaric Has he provided enough funds why wont he sack DJ ?
I know he saved us and we will always remember that and he will always be a legend BUT MM you have to act now we may aswell lose our next 7 games under a new manager it will prove if dj was right or wrong about our team

It's not too late yet -- still 25 games to play and 75 points to play for. But we need to act now to change things up, cos this sure ain't workin'. The changes should begin with a new manager named this week

Technically 75 points is a heck of alot of points to play for.
So yes you can still be struggling and get
out of it. We have lost 7 in a row, which
is appalling and earlier in the season we lost five in a row. It is like a runaway train trying to stop losing like this.
Wednesday may stop having long losing runs like these, but you are asking them
to win alot of games. They may get a few
wins but can they sustain it?
Say 10 wins, 6 draws and 9 losses. And that may or may not be enough!
I think that is a tall order for this team.
My god I hope I am wrong.

It'll sure as hell be a tall order under DJ! To stand any chance at all, we have to pick up points over the holiday period. And to do that, we'll need a new manager and a new coaching staff ASAP

08 Dec 2012 17:06:17
"Wise Old Owls" here again

Well I wonder what excuse DJ will use after today's result? Probably blame the Ref or the 25000 managers who know nothing about Football

Even more interesting wonder what MM is thinking?

I heard they had a meeting and decided the players would pick the team and tactics, so what was DJ doing today, was he on half time tea duties?

I am sat here thinking of that fabulous day 31st August 1968 when Jack Whitham scored a hat trick against Man Utd in the best game ever played at Hillsborough, I was lucky to have witnessed that

We need to get back to those days that is where we belong

P45 for Dave Jones

Agree but waddles free kick against pigs in semi was better. does he have a crack oh and he does rahhhhhhh. di matteo do stop the rot.

Dave Jones out, Milan please please please save us

Milan gave the clown the job in the first place !!

08 Dec 2012 16:55:08
brilliant winning 2-1 now loosing 2-3
well done dj just GO lets try winning,

too many chances GO NOW you cant do anything for our team PLEASE JUST GO eric the owl

Even when we were 2-1 up playing a horrible team with 10 minutes to go, I felt sure we'd figure out some way to lose. It's come to that. Floundering, no confidence, and now becoming stranded at the bottom of the table. With a full week to go before the next crucial game against the Dingles, and with the vital holiday fixtures coming up, this would be a great time to replace the manager. Look what a difference changing the manager has made for Ipswich!

08 Dec 2012 10:49:28
if we lose today thats got to be curtains for him surely.

Deffo , and he knows it !
He has to go anyway, hes talking about signing Bothcrap permanent in Jan if hes still Manager - and we cant let that happen !!

At least if players playing how they want to play might stand a chance ?
Lets face it none of DJs ideas have worked.
The only success hes had was last season with Megsons team and system before he started to change things around and just got worse every week .

Got to be his last game if we lose.
There will be no excuse good enough.
You can use them for Leicester at home and middlesborough and cardiff away but not for Bristol at home.
Sayin that, i didn't think he could justify losing so bad to watford.
Seriously, he has brought in players but still moans.
Should have brought some better ones in dave.

We shouldn't be in the mess we're in with the players that are already here !
DJs just got his strategy all wrong .
Bothroyd is not the player he was , the money has made him lazy, it happens. But DJ has tried to manipulate the team to get the best out of Bothroyd, instead of setting up to get the best out of the team.
DJ is too stubborn/arrogant to admit his mistakes but if he does go , and the right man comes in he will find it relatively easy to recover the situation.
Even now he keeps saying "I haven't become a bad manager overnight" well his record says he wasn't that good anyway, but even if he was , results prove he is not getting it right by a long way now.
His major mistake was not bringing in a quality centre-back & an experienced play-maker to sit in midfield.
He has signed some good youngsters but he should have known the priority THIS season was consolidation, the youngsters could have been brought in through this season once we had cemented our place.

His Biggest Mistake Was lack of leaders in the middle of the park

According to the local press if we lose today, MM won't fire him until after the Barnsley game because he won't want to disrupt the team before a derby match. He did this with Megson before the United game. So if that is right his time might be up, we can live in hope anyway.

Its frustrating that we can see whats wrong and DJ can't.
We needed a good cb.I think jones was unlucky there as he brought in two that were good popular players for other sides.
We needed a quality experienced midfielder and he brought in a promising but inconsistant youngster short term.
Bothroyd has lost it.He wasn't to know, but now he does he must drop him.
He needs to play Rodri.He has shown what he can do but he needs a run of games.
He is so stubborn that he wont listen to the 1000,s of fans that have been going years and know more about football than he gives us credit for.
We have a lot of good players.Just need a new manager shapish who can motivate them and add some quality in jan.
Got to be his last match.Even if we win i think it will be a false dawn like the Ipswich game was.

If results stay as they are, we'll lose to barnsley and be dead and buried.
What a balls up

Milan are you going daft

No excuses, if we cant beat them at home then thats that, we ARE DOOMED