Sheffield Wednesday Banter Archive November 11 2012

 

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11 Nov 2012 21:16:11
Dj best manager since big Ron, give him time, look at reading, Southampton at bottom of prem, it's only like us been near bottom, u have to adapt to been in a higher league, come on you can't expect to be top, we won't go down were not playing that bad were just missing chances, we will survive & build on the squad, come January when window opens dj will get a couple of players & we will finish mid table no problem!

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We certainly seem to have had our fair share of good managers, all of who seem to fail when come to our team. I dont believe DJ is the best since big Ron but if he's half as good as you think he is, why are we where we are - struggling at the bottom of the division ?? I realise it can take time to put things right but to put things right you have to do something and in all honesty DJ doesnt appear to be doing anything. Lets hope that DJ sees what everyone else sees, that certain of his favourites just arent good enough, Time to try something else DJ before its too late UTO

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Sorry but I think original poster is guilty of blind faith, and the second poster highlights some of the concerns
A lot of fans are judging DJ against the background that "he" got us promoted and this is just a blip.
Yes he got us over the line, but with a squad that was put together and inspired by someone else. And we can argue about it but we will never , ever know whether we would have got promotion anyway if we hadnt changed manager. All I will say is its players that win and lose matches not managers.
What I'm judging DJ on his what hes achieved since hes started to tinker with that squad, bring in his own players, change the tactics , change the culture of the club. If you look at it from that point of view I struggle to find a positive, its been downhill all the way !
So for me hes had too long already I'm afraid and I see no signs of him even having an idea how to pull it around . Every step he takes just seems to make it worse .

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Talking of blind faith I cannot for the life of me see why DJ keeps with boothroyd, I used to think clarke was lazy.

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Best manager since Big Ron which fantasy planet are you living on. Big Ron brought in quality players and moulded then into a very good team, he inspired them and he never went on radio and TV and criticised his players unlike DJ. On Friday he criticised Madine, he has, during this season also publically criticised, Beevers, Lleira, Semedo and JJ among others of the promotion wining team. But has never criticised Bothroyd, Barkley or any player he has brought to the club that is plain bad man management. Someone posted on the rumours page that on Radio Sheffield this morning Dave Jones said he doesn't think the players at the club are good enough for the Championship can't see for the life of me Big Ron doing that.

But DJ has brought in 15 of that squad, best manager since Big Ron don't think so.

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Big Ron never criticised players you are having a laugh, also he was allowed to spend good money. A team on a budget takes time to put together. Good management is a lot easier when you have large budget. Recruiting free transfer players is always hit and miss. Reason Boothroyd plays is we got him on the basis he plays in first team.

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All you so called fans slaggin the manager off of our beloved Wednesday what did your silly little minds think that we was going to run away with the league NOT give dj a break and get behind him AND the players you will soon see he's the best man for the job and you can all apologies on this site MUPPETS uto ME OWD THE OWL WTID

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Calm down me owd, an will you apologise if DJ n Bothroyd goes and we suddenly set off on a winning run?
We all got an opinion mate thats whats great about footy

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Give over lad we all know hes not the man for job hes made a complete shambles of things

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Yes I will say sorry but its not the management they should be playin for its the 95% of the great fans of this terrific club and of course they should wear the famous shirt with pride we are all in this together ME OWD THE OWL

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Cheers mate, I agree with you but them days are gone I'm afraid, not many play for the shirt these days. Most of em are playing to win a big fat contract then they pass rest of time spendin it on clubbing n big cars.

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11 Nov 2012 17:35:33
still nobody blames barkley for going quiet against better teams , goes through the motions of a game and hardly gets a touch very inexperienced and not yet good enough to be pulling the strings in centre mid

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Your dead right mate but you said it yourself - hes inexperienced - not his fault he shouldnt be in that position. Its the bloke who put him there to blame

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Definitly mate so if we can see it then why cant dj... the frustrations just keep on rising

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Big Ron, might have criticised his players in the changing but not individuals on TV or radio. As for a big budget, the transfer market was a great deal different then, the Bosmen Ruling was only just taking an effect on the transfer market so even average players cost a lot more than they do now. When he came in we were still in the Premier League and Premier League clubs get more money from the Premier League than Championship clubs. We went down that year but most of us who watch the club week in week out were comfortable that we had a good squad and a very good manager and bounce straight back which we did.

We can still name quality players that Ron brought to the club, apart from possibly Gardner name one quality player that Jones has brought in and I am not talking about the youngsters that one day may be quality, we can't rely on what might be in happen in a few years, our problem is now.

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11 Nov 2012 15:35:43
Just to remind everybody ANTONIO was signed by MEGSON not DJ .
People keep saying hes DJs only good signing n he didnt even sign him !!

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11 Nov 2012 14:14:48
lets get one thing straight here when dj came in last season it wasnt him that won us promotion it was the players, in an interview with dj end of last season he was asked what did you do and say to them for them to go on such a good run his answer was "i just told em to go out and express them selfs" confidence was already high after the derby win at hillsborough and thats what carried us through,plus blades top goalscorer getting sent down went in our favour, there for i dont think dj has done a great deal for us to be honest, and im with the other 75% of wednesday fans DJ OUT

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Spot on mate !
After the derby win , Megson didnt come on TV , Chris Evans was interviewed on TV and he said -- the dressing room is buzzing Ive just said to the boss (Megson) this feels just like it did at West Brom before we went unbeaten to end of season, I think we can do it again !
We know now thats what happened, what we will NEVER know is whether that would have happened if Megson had stayed or not. All we know is DJ took the credit.
What we deffo do know is that Megson put all of that team together with next to no money, and if Antonios mrs hadnt been expecting and hed come in straight away in January it might have been totally different , again who knows?
What we also DO know is that DJs treatment of those players, and his attempts at "improving" things have been diabolical.
His contempt for the fans and the other players with insisting on playing Bothroyd when hes been poorest player on park week in week out is disgraceful , and WILL cost him his job cos MM will have no other choice.

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Cant believe were paying half of bothroyds 40k a week wages hes most expensive player weve had for years and all dj has done is alienated the promotion winning players and put a dampner on things,his negativity is second to none, hard to be posotive at this moment in time becouse cant see were our next win will come from and cant see any posotives from the manager its just his same old grumpy face saying same things week in week out

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To add to the gloom, it looks like were going to loan out OUR promising 20yo striker who just scored cos hes finally been given a chance to - and loan in for another £20grand a week a "promising" 19yo striker who had a good 3-4months some 2years ago and has been unable to reproduce anywhere near that form since ?
And theres some on here that STILL think DJ is a good manager ?

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He probably wants him so he can go n stand next to Bothroyd so hes got somebody to talk to while hes doin nowt !!

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Lol someone to tie bothroyds laces cus hes that lazy he wont do it his self i bet dj even has to dress bothroyd in changing room while sneakingly slipping a finger up his ass

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Somebody to undo his laces. It appears that Hemroyd has been tying both his feet together.

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We were automatically promoted last season largely because united bottled it after we wooped em and their best player was sent down our, confidence was sky high and theirs was really low. DJ was just lucky to get on the bandwagon at the right time, i'm sure Megson would have also taken us up if he had been allowed to stay

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Spot on mate

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11 Nov 2012 13:09:31
DJ insists on playing this 4-1-4-1 formation even though it doesnt work and bothroyd is being carried every game things need to change and fast or we are doomed should have stuck with formation that got us promoted and trusted players who got us here more .

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Like huddersfield have

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Hudds even sold their best player. Yet they are moving forwards.

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11 Nov 2012 11:04:52
Dave Jones is trying to get 19yo Connor Wickham on emergency loan from Sunderland.
He probably thinks hes that bit of experience that we've been lacking ??

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No he is not he is trying to get Adam le fondre and that is a fact.

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Given that the club have confirmed there interest in Wickham & ALF is playing regular for Reading ..... I just dont know who to believe .... you or the club ????

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ME of course

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Of course, cant think why I doubted you !

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Lol I cant think why you doubted him either ! at least he is saying something which is more than they are doing on wednesday official site (which I might add I am not very impressed with) all you see on our site is whats on sale in the store - eric the owl

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11 Nov 2012 10:17:40
Milan should get Harry rednapp till end of season would keep us up dave jones has lost the plot same excuses week in week out think jones will be sacked by Tuesday?

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I can`t believe jones still has a job

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W hen will you listen rednapp will never manage a club in the north.dont know who next manager would be but please dont try and shout for a manager to be sacked dont you lot think milan has said something already,dj is trying to get players in but the club has to be run as economical as possible we have loan players in but players clubs paying most of wages.we have players we are trying to get out but are on that good wages no one will pay elsewhere so its be patient and get behind our great club.

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What are you talking about?
Dj has brought players in they just not good enough, MM wont let him bring any more in because of that.
We pay lowest wages in this division by a mile! - apart from the loan players. We were not even one of highest wages in league one last year.
If progress was being made the fans would be patient but no sign of a win, and without a win have you worked out what might happen ??

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I will ask you a simple question when milan took over our club,what were the conditions of the debt payments,do we just say milan spend this and that lets get ourselves in debt again,because beleive you me we were so close to going under last time.

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To last poster - what are you reading?
I cant see anybody on here saying spend money Milan?
They are nearly all saying please get rid of DJ before you waste any more of your money.
Unlike last year when MM kept his hands in his pocket and Megson got is to playoff places.
This year hes given DJ some money to spend and were in relegation places.

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So whoever comes in as manager will not want money fo signings?

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They may well do and MM will decide whether they get it or not.
But nobody on here is asking Milan to spend any more than he has done or will do , what they are saying is dont let DJ stay here and be the one to spend it .
Youre the one talking about wasting money, and DJ is only one thats wasted any of MMs money cos Megson didnt get any !

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I about gary not having money i thought it was very ruthless how megs was treat, but football is like that now,football sadly is losing its heart and soul but thats the money thats done that,I have no doubt what so ever that 2 more games and 2 defeats DJ is history dont know what you think.

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